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Mar 29, 2021 20:47:37 GMT -6
Post by kennn on Mar 29, 2021 20:47:37 GMT -6
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Mar 29, 2021 22:56:39 GMT -6
Post by johnno56 on Mar 29, 2021 22:56:39 GMT -6
You have made a fair point. Pure coding, these days, would not be a recommendation for those without programming knowledge. 'Point and Click' would be easier and faster for them. But, in most cases, pointing and clicking is not really programming. Sure, it takes an amount of knowledge, to click and drop the right 'blocks' or objects on the screen, but that in my opinion, produces "lazy" programmers.
Basic was designed for beginners... Even those without programming skills... But, you are correct in that, taking the path of click and drop for immediate results, seems to be more attractive than actual programming. Yes. I agree. That is saddening...
But, in all fairness, providing newbies with basic (no pun intended) programming skills can only help provide interest in coding from scratch. There doesn't need to be a lot of material. Just enough to develop interest.
For the rest of us, with varying levels of skill, can and should expect their skills to be enhanced by providing material (samples and or projects) that will both educate and challenge each one of us.
Remember all programmers were once newbies. Not catering for newbies will have at least two effects. 1. RCBasic (or any other type of coded Basic) will lose potential new members and 2. Those newbies will gravitate towards point and click. The more popular that point and click becomes the greater the chances of coded Basic's will fade even quicker...
You are correct. Attention must be given to the 'skilled' but we must also 'train' newbies to be the 'next generation' of 'skilled'...
RCBasic (or any other programming tool) will be successful if and when the community is successful.
Time for more coffee...
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Mar 30, 2021 5:26:16 GMT -6
Post by aurel on Mar 30, 2021 5:26:16 GMT -6
Perhaps is a main point of ....AGAIN...an IDEA and i know that is 1000% useless... as i sayed before rcBasic should be promoted on more sites like Softpedia,FreewareFiles ...etc..etc...
you cannot attract former users of Blitz to use rcBasic just like that there are a lot programming languages for games and graphics so competitions is a huge another moment,,basic as such is not popular anymore..there are set of abandoned basic-like languages if you look on mindteq.com site...
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Mar 30, 2021 7:08:14 GMT -6
Post by johnno56 on Mar 30, 2021 7:08:14 GMT -6
Hey Aurel... mindteq.com says its a "private server"... Unable to view anything... Worth a shot...
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Mar 30, 2021 11:58:46 GMT -6
Post by aurel on Mar 30, 2021 11:58:46 GMT -6
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Mar 30, 2021 12:48:02 GMT -6
Post by johnno56 on Mar 30, 2021 12:48:02 GMT -6
Ah... Now 'that' site I remember. A 'lot' of basic and basic-like applications. Even a few that will run on Linux... It's been a while since I have looked through the site. There's a lot of good looking apps in there... old and some abandoned... Some I remember from "way back"... But, that is the nature of growing old... Written. Used. Not used. Archived. Abandoned. Forgotten... A little sad but that's life...
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Post by kennn on Apr 1, 2021 2:24:16 GMT -6
johnno56, I try to explain:
1. For beginners who want to learn programming: not every programming language in the programming world needs to train this kind of beginner. Languages with big user bases(QB64, FreeBASIC, etc.) have abundance tutorials and examples for this kind of beginner to learn. Therefore, this type of beginner normally doesn't select RCBasic for learning programming(also because they notice the low activity of our forum).
2. For people after learning processes in 1: some of them(examples: Scaremonger, c0d3r9, ddabrahim) will be interested in learning other programming languages and therefore these people will search for other languages on the Internet. This type of people will become an user of RCBasic if the features of RCBasic satisfy their needs. I therefore said in my last post: development focuses of future versions of RCBasic should be on this kind of people.
3. I hope that Noob will read and understand my explanation and add features to RCBasic for attracting people in 2.
aurel, The above suggeston is not bad. If Noob read this, Noob may respond. ( I really hope that Noob will reply to you as soon as possible. Sure. )
If you ask me why Noob didn't do this, I am not able to answer you. I really don't know the actual reason. Why?? Can you guess why?
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Post by aurel on Apr 1, 2021 8:17:10 GMT -6
oups my reply gone kenn my friendly advice to you is stop wasting time with members of syntaxbomb forum thay have own agenda and i doubt that are even interested to try RCbasic for nOOB...i really cannot guess why is not published more
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Apr 5, 2021 18:49:12 GMT -6
Post by kennn on Apr 5, 2021 18:49:12 GMT -6
my friendly advice to you is stop wasting time with members of syntaxbomb forum thay have own agenda and i doubt that are even interested to try RCbasic Hello.....I mentioned the persons in my previous post and perhaps you didn't read their posts about RCBasic. They showed their interests in RCBasic. c0d3r94: "Thanks for that info.I will take a look at this niece piece of software over the xmas days.thanks" ddabrahim: "Okay. So I managed to launch Geany but when I open an RCBasic project from the examples and try to build and run it, it is saying rcbasic is not recognised as an internal or external program error code 9009." Of course not all users of Blitz softwares will be interested in RCBasic but this direction is really correct. Possible reasons: 1. Noob has no time. 2. Noob overlooks the importance of this kind of website(Softpedia, Softonic, etc.). 3. Noob is still hesitating. 4. Noob thinks that the promotion for RCBasic is not too important.
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Apr 5, 2021 21:55:03 GMT -6
Post by johnno56 on Apr 5, 2021 21:55:03 GMT -6
Guys,
I think we are getting 'way' off track. If memory serves me correctly, we are meant to be discussing "Feature Requests".
Please move this discussion to either "General Discussion" or "Basic and hobby".
Thank you.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:52:27 GMT -6
Post by aurel on Apr 5, 2021 23:52:27 GMT -6
ahh i see now...sorry i think that you overhelmed story . well i can see that nobody reply to last guy dbrahim..or something hmmm
well johnno kenny posted here .... and yes you right it should be under different board...ouh too much to type.. time for kafa
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Post by johnno56 on Apr 6, 2021 1:09:55 GMT -6
YES! More coffee!!
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Apr 20, 2021 11:20:08 GMT -6
Post by kennn on Apr 20, 2021 11:20:08 GMT -6
I think we are getting 'way' off track. If memory serves me correctly, we are meant to be discussing "Feature Requests". Please move this discussion to either "General Discussion" or "Basic and hobby". Thank you. Hello, I suggest that the name of this sub-forum is changed to "Feature Request and Other Suggestions". Discussing suggestions on RCBasic in a general sub-forum is too strange.
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Apr 20, 2021 14:08:56 GMT -6
Post by johnno56 on Apr 20, 2021 14:08:56 GMT -6
Kennn,
First. I'm not sure I have the authority to rename anything... Second. "Feature Request" is specific. "Other suggestions" is not. "General" and "Other" seem to be a suitable match. Suggestions, or discussions, that are not specific to "Feature Request" that are of a "general" or "other" nature, will be placed in the "General discussions" board under the sub-forum "RCBasic Support".
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Apr 21, 2021 3:19:43 GMT -6
Post by kennn on Apr 21, 2021 3:19:43 GMT -6
will be placed in the "General discussions" board under the sub-forum "RCBasic Support". But actually, no General Discussions board is in the RCBasic Support section now.
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