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Post by aurel on Mar 1, 2020 12:12:53 GMT -6
Yes ,,i have in plan...to make linux custum installation on one of my older computers.
hmmm yes i am not very much in linux but never say never..heh
ok..
After reading few articles and watching few videos i decided to try to install
ubuntu mini -iso 31MB size based system
version 14.04 TThar 32bit
and add to it Budgie Desktop
afeter that i think to add refracta installer and base remastering tool
like Pinguy Builder
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Post by johnno56 on Mar 1, 2020 22:08:12 GMT -6
Brave. All the best. I will be curious to see how go....
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Post by aurel on Mar 2, 2020 2:01:23 GMT -6
well Brave...maybe is a to strong words
when i using mini distro called Miyo i learned some things
of course this type of install need internet connection.
at first i was thinking to use debian mini-iso but is too big 472MB
so ubuntu is smaller and faster option this time
also i was thinking to use Openbox as lighter WM but it looks that so many things to be added later
In Budgie all is there,it is bigger but more modern.
If not work with Budgie i will then use openbox.
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Post by aurel on Mar 2, 2020 2:23:36 GMT -6
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Post by johnno56 on Mar 2, 2020 2:35:22 GMT -6
Cool wallpaper...
Brave was meant to be "braver than I"... I do not know enough about the inner workings of Linux to build a distribution... You are definitely braver than I am...
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Post by aurel on Mar 2, 2020 9:57:02 GMT -6
well ok
i am stuck this time with problematic MBR- master boot record
when old winXP crush on that computer i was able only to boot wifiSlax on second partition
that crush mess up MBR so i need to find a way to fix it up.
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Post by johnno56 on Mar 2, 2020 15:51:41 GMT -6
I may not be much help to you there. My only experience to avoid potential HDD problems is to format the HDD using a bootable usb version of Linux. I am sorry I cannot be of more help.
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Post by aurel on Mar 3, 2020 2:43:59 GMT -6
No problem Johno
Last night i finally figured what is wrong.
problem with BIOS setting must be - USB RMD - FDD for AMI type of bios
older motherboards.
Then Unebootin is the best program for creating USB bootable sticks.
And yes i finally boot from usb and all steps go well to select archive mirror
then troubles up...no one of mirrors not work eben i have internet connection.
I will ask on our local linux problem about that...
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Post by johnno56 on Mar 3, 2020 19:35:40 GMT -6
A bios setting? Wow... If it's not a rude question, how old is the computer that you are planning on using?
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Post by aurel on Mar 4, 2020 1:52:37 GMT -6
How is old,i really don't know it is from one my freiend,that comp is not turned on probaby five or more years
it have old ami bios and all that work,he have XP instelled before.
For testing i found old original CD with Kubuntu 8.10 and install fine on that computer.
Unfortunatelly net-install not work because our local wifi AP need WEB login so ubuntu installer cannot packeges
from archive mirrors, so i install MiyoLinux . He not work fast on my another old comp as i expected.
I will replace processor which is now old Pentium 1.6 with one 2.6 Pentium just to see diffeence heh
funny things with older hardware !!
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Post by johnno56 on Mar 4, 2020 3:19:44 GMT -6
Yeah... The reason I asked how old... Old hardware can be a bit tricky at times... The rule of thumb that I use is, if it can run reasonably quick from a bootable USB, then chances are pretty good that a full install could work just as well... Most Linux kernels are pretty robust and contain a lot of drivers for all sorts of hardware... But Linux, believe it or not, has its limitations... Where do they draw the line at which old drivers to keep? I have no idea...
You did say Pentium, yes? Wow. That is old. I think the earliest Pentiums were about 1993... Could be wrong... Pentium 1.6 to 3.4 are dated around 2001 which would explain the use of Windows XP... I think perhaps trying to increase memory first may be the way to go. DDR ram came out about 2000. Not sure how much it costs to get DDR or DD2... If the memory is already maxed out then upgrading the CPU could be the way to go.
Anyway, sounds like an interesting project... Looks like you're going to be kept busy with this one... I would be interested in updates as you go. Sounds like fun.
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Post by aurel on Mar 4, 2020 12:38:46 GMT -6
Yeah it is , I think that this computer is probably from 2004-2007 maximum.
As i say every step work dine with classic Debian-Ubuntu classic intaller i used many times but problematic part is that
stupid web -login when you must from WebBrowser click on button login to get internet connection.
And that is not possible from installer and not from any kind of console or terminal.
For a proof of that when i install that debian(devuan) based distro on that computer .
This distro comes without broeser ,so naturally i tried with synaptic pm
and when i tried to download firefox then i get error ; connection feiled and again main problem is login.
of course i tried with terminal sudo apt-get and again connection not work
so i must download firefox from another computer ,put it on stick and install it manually.
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Post by aurel on Mar 4, 2020 12:46:28 GMT -6
Yes Johnno ,i know that unforunatelly there are some crucial problems with linux which are still the same.
file system is one of them , only one which is trully fast is no longer in development and is reiserFS .
I tried it long time ago in Freespire linux which is there by default ,it is simply blazing fast
then very bad syncronisatiion between kernel and display drivers including window managers.
and the too much things are created in python which a too much slow for such a things
etc..etc...
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Post by aurel on Mar 5, 2020 12:25:50 GMT -6
After all that mumbo jumbo i decide to try Bodhi 5 then i again stuck with stupid problems not
created by me again the as i read on many places it is a bug in Ubuntu 18.04 with initramfs damn, only solution isto burn it on CD
then boot ,not work from usb booting,ah that is big crap.
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Post by aurel on Mar 5, 2020 14:20:54 GMT -6
I really become pissed off with this bug in insteller then i download Bodhi 4.5 32bit version and after few seconds of booting system is up and runing in live mode from usb...goood! In a taskbar is icon - Install Bodhi -i click it and installation procedure started. Following few usual staps system start to copy files on my hard drive . It is interesting that even is in live mode ,repond really very quickly and i am really surprized with that ..nice. Also all hardver is recocnized out of box also as wifi which work in live mode too  |
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