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Post by aurel on Jan 15, 2022 6:04:56 GMT -6
i am sceptic.... forum.qb64.org/index.php?topic=4571.msg139717;boardseen#newthis looks to me like a crap over Powerbasic thing BUT with big difference Powerbasic from start was comercial...ok thay claim that will stay free/open hmmm something smell bad to me there BUT...well i am not really a user of this Qbasic dialect so i don't care to much  |
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Post by aurel on Jan 15, 2022 6:07:17 GMT -6
well i am not only one who is sceptic
STATIC...well know i often don't agree with him but he have a nose
This whole thing stinks like shit unless someone opens a window.
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Post by aurel on Jan 15, 2022 6:18:45 GMT -6
auuuuu
that's not looking good
CEO site have this :
"My computer got a virus and I couldn't get any thing to work.
I was completely lost on what to do;
so I called Carter Enterprises and in less than an hour they had me up and running again..."
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Post by johnno56 on Jan 15, 2022 8:12:42 GMT -6
A lot of people were sceptical because of insufficient information. People were left to their own imaginations and thinking all kinds of possibilities... The new Administrator finally "addressed the troops" to clear up many concerns. QB64 needed to adjust their goals and begin to cleanup the source code so that modifications/new features can be added with as little fuss as possible... Hopefully all will be "back to normal" in a short while....
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Post by aurel on Jan 15, 2022 9:32:38 GMT -6
well john
i can agree with you ...but that simply smell strange
open source project with comercial background is not very common thing
do you really beleive that he can cleanup source code ?
i don't think so
bad thing is that when "team" around felipe take over using Galleon code
and don't know exactlly what they do just glue new commands on top of
existing code ...never good idea..i think
OxygenBasic is for example Public Domain but still nobody around fork it
even is 3 to 5 times more powerful than qb64...secret is in assembly code
or in combination of assembler and basic ..ahhh personally i don't care
i don't use it much ..just sometimes i like to try programs mostly written by BPlus.
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Post by johnno56 on Jan 15, 2022 14:44:26 GMT -6
Regardless of the dialect, a clean up of the source could be a good thing, assuming that the people who do it actually know what they are doing... lol
As long as QB64 remains free and open source, I couldn't care less even if the team was a troop of monkeys, I would still use it.
I am still sceptical in regards to the "politics" of the running of QB64. But I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Let's hope that the new leadership; code cleanup; modifications will improve QB64... If not... there are plenty of other "Basics" out there... lol
I have looked at O2H several times over the past few years. It is still in 'alpha' and is only for windows. It maybe more powerful than QB64 but QB64 will run natively on multiple operating systems. Do you know if they will eventually do a Linux version?
BPlus certainly has a gift of creativity when it comes to Basic. On this point we agree... lol
Time for breakfast and coffee... Have a great day!
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Post by rosy on Jan 16, 2022 3:14:30 GMT -6
If someone put a lot of effort into a product, I do not know how you can blame that in the end you want to have some remuneration for it ... We should be grateful that so far he has worked for free.
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Post by johnno56 on Jan 16, 2022 4:42:44 GMT -6
I can remember when Linux first became available for PC's... I think a "donation" system was setup. About $5 for a CD if memory serves. Compared to what other OS's were charging, $5 was a bargain... Eventually it morphed into free and open source... But, for all the work that was put into developing Linux, I would not blame theme today if they wanted to charge a fee... That is one of the attractive parts of "free and open source"... One can create a Linux distribution and sell it... Watch out Bill Gates! lol
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Post by aurel on Jan 16, 2022 5:33:08 GMT -6
That new guy not put anything...wait it seems that he put
but imagine this situation
you or someone from forum (qb64) made program that guy CEO can
copyrighted your program ..how because he is owner
is that open source ..is that comunity driven programming language
NO is not
johnno
o2 is not anymore in alpha stage , it is now selfcompiled compiler
so there is no need to use FreeBasic and make o2.
Charles said that we can expect new 0.4 SC version
unfortunatelly it is Windows only ..for you
and i repeat i really don't care what would be with qb64
but i know one thing ..because of suspicous software that guy present
i will NOT download any new version of qb64
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Post by rosy on Jan 16, 2022 6:01:10 GMT -6
It would be nice if they got along with GFA Basic 32 and continued to develop together ...
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Post by aurel on Jan 16, 2022 12:54:42 GMT -6
well gfa32 is diferent project
qb64 tend to be clone of qbasic
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Post by Lurker and a copy paste progra on Jan 16, 2022 13:03:41 GMT -6
Yeah, Oxygen Basic is not in alpha stage anymore and that's why its website and the download page say it's in alpha stage. Makes sense. Also, the binaries available to download are from... 2017. And what's happend to Oxygen Basic forum? It looks like we have another dead BASIC here...
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Post by aurel on Jan 16, 2022 13:24:38 GMT -6
oh you alive..nice
Oxygen Basic forum is now on JoseRoca forum
which by the way is not jose roca forum than Theo Gothwald forum
ahh complex story ...
by the way ..
this topic is about qb64...
so visit qb64 forum if you wish
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Post by Lurker, copy/paste programmer on Jan 16, 2022 14:20:11 GMT -6
Well, it wasn't me who first mentioned Oxygen Basic in this topic...
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Post by aurel on Jan 16, 2022 14:35:40 GMT -6
i was talking in context of free / open source / public domain(o2)
case ...
and if you look(lurk) around qb64 forum you must see topic about
new CEO
heh i just looked at qb64 discord and well
the guy is already a admin..wow
well i wont be a surprised if we very soon see something like this :
if you wish new version of qb64 ....buy for $$
if you wish new ide for qb64 .........buy for $$
and similar ...
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